Synopsis:
In 1981 by George Orwell, being in the perspective of a citizen in a dictatorship country, we go through the first emotions and thoughts of doubt. Orwell helps us picture this world where everyone is being watched through screens and being heard of every word that comes out a human mouth. He argues how Winston, the protagonist, could or could not make an impact in the future with this diary because at the end of the day, the future may be lost more than ever. We see character traits that are ironically situations to the United States. A world where freedom is slavery is not freedom for us. In this insight, Orwell shows us the trouble many go through in society if they speak up and who’s voice is significant because of social class and government structure.
Discussion (in seminar):
Laurel “During Hate week you can say that ppl show their true colors bcz even w/ Winston in the sotry he transfers the anger he has from watching the telescreen to the women behind him”
Slogan: Weakens the indiv. Mind and they will forever live in constant fear because of the propaganda produced by the Party. Waging war is significant, Demands to control the pople and alter their thinking. Might be a way to bring ppl together
Winsotn goes see a woman for pleasure and there is some complexity because
War is a symbol to accomplish their goals and seen as praise, totalirism
Posters Everywhere
Fake news, presidential debates on television
Significant - shortsentences,
Reasoning with the future - warning
Rebelling (diary ^)
Social CLasses ! not important that they speak up; could say they have more freedom than the “higher class"
Government doesnt care or mind about the lower class
Lower Class has more freedom - irony situation
\”gimicing - hate expresing
Even if they dont want
Cholcate being reduced
Memories wiping out
Paperwight
Obrein - independet rebel
October 14, 2020 (Wednesday)
Discussion 2
Julia says that there isn’t anything that the Inner Party doesn’t have while the Outer Party is starving, what is Orwell saying about his society? Are there connections to today and our society? (pg 220)
Big brother - who is it? = Incentives
I think that they use the phrase “Big Brother” a lot as a way to put fear into the people because he has always been referred to as a symbol of fear and power. I think they use it more as a motive rather than a person
This does connect to our society because, in America for example, big companies hold most of the money while millions of epople are homeless and live in poverty
Big Brother has to be a group of people because one can be overthrown really fast but if it was a group with incentives, they would be stronger
If the insitnc of parenthood systematically made children turn against their parents and they are taught to spy…. Why doesnt the party reveal?
I think they dont reveal their intimate relationships because they are in a way telling people to not have any sort of relationship with anyone yet they are doing it. Connecting to Marlen’s questions, they probably want to hold a high standard to morals and beliefs, which is why the party is saying that intimacy is wrong.
We should definitely be more united, in unison peopl eaccomplish much more than if they were trying to reach the same goal individually. While competition can be effective, overall working unison is much more productive and we should have more working together.
As we can see, unity is always important, especially in today;s society. At this moment we are struggling to be united with the racial unjust that’s happening around the world so I believe we do have to be United. So we should come together and do more to live in peace
Having people together they will will do anything for eah other if they a strong relationship;
Also the though police is suppose to do their jobs to keep this dictatorship going and these situation can be looked as flaws or failure
Julian adn winston seeing the bird was ree to live life as it chose and free of worries whereas Winston and Julia lived in this oppression society where every move was watched, so it would represent freedom of all things
Bid: Sumbolizes freedom and life is sort of meaningless
Bird can be seen as a threat bcz they have been under the rule of fear of how their life is truly not there own since the Party controls everything in all aspects of the people elifes
More safety for those who follow dictatorship because they believe and are being watched 24/7 vs those who are not politicans and are not a threat (oerhaps bcz they are uneducted) and have more eliberty to speak
Rumplestilskin - allusion:
Big brother is an allusion itself to strike fear the peopl similar to what we talked to previously. And the party manipulates reality in order to make themselves sound like they in the right people eyes, but because the ppl edont technically know how to think for themselves they down question anything the party does in general
238 - controlled
Memories are bing controlled
Winston even said that they party controlled their feelings and impulses to the point where they felt numb to any kind of emotion; Party controlled their feelings and impulses to a point where they felt numb to any kindof emotion
it ironic that winston is engulfed with emotions when he is with Julia
Relationship connects to winston and their mothers relationship by how strong winston emotions are when it comes to them, when remembering his mother he subconsciously though
Discussion 3 Volume 3
Topic:
Yazmin S: In chapter 1, Winston is in prison and he imagines being beaten. He wonders if that will make say that he is with Julia. In life, people are put in situations where they are pressured to confess what they have done. Do you think the government uses that tactic to get what they want from people?
No, because of the amendments
the only way I can think of is through the FBI like through certain criminals, but they wouldn’t beat people up at least I don’t think they would pressure criminals for what they have done or if they want to find a hostage but those are the only reasons I can think of
Yah like in Criminal Minds while interrogating the criminals they use special tactics to get the criminal to confess. Our government doesn’t openly beat criminals, but instead use methods such as yelling and study the body language
Well, in regards to your question, in general I think not only the government if they do with certain people, but other people who are not necessarily connected to the government. Even in other countries I can see these types of situations. If situations like these happen on tv or documentaries, they are likely to have been situations seen in real life.
I would say it depend because we have seen some cases in the past where the government or people who work for the government sometimes abuse their power to make others confess to something they might not have done like in the 60's there were a lot of cases where sometimes the police officers and sometimes even judges would tell racial profiled victims to say that they were the criminals and the ones who did the bad thing because they wanted to just put them in jail and lock them up sometimes just because they didn't like them
How do you think Winston was able to endure this torture, what gave him the courage to carry on? What are Winston's feelings towatds O'Brien?
I think Winston was spiritually lifted by Julia. He realizes that he must stray mentally strong for her. also, Winston identifies the fact that Julia may be enduring more pain than he is. But although Julia is giving him courage to carry on, he is losing love for her ( since he is physically unable to feel her presence). If this love for her diminishes, so will his hope.
In a way Winston feels that O'Brien is allowing him to understand clearly his memories from the past and his true feeling towards the party
Yeah, it probably does help Winston being able to get his feelings off his chest.
Even though he is the one giving him the pain in a way he also feels that he is also his protector.
How is Julia and Winston seeing each other in the park evidence of the party’s newfound control over them? And why do they say they must meet again after admitting mutual betrayal?
Marriage was digusting, affair with Julian was passionate and wonderful and shows they stole their freedom which is being stomped on
Winston - even when he says he wants to meet agaian- he kinda knows they wont, it has been too traumatic ,
Ex: like when you tell someone lets meet up ad you say yes but dont deep down
We can see how they knew that they needed to betray each other since the party was getting to a point where they were attacking their personal values for examples their love for each other. So now when they meet again they are afraid of being caught once again. The party succeeds in putting fear in them.
Betrayal relationship
they felt to meet again in the guilt feeling that they were each others first true emotions towards anything so even though Winston doesn't want to meet up they feel they must do it once again
He admires obrein, thinks logically, and finds it intereting how he got to scumbb to big brother
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